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October 8, 2004
Summary: TAA/TMHP/HHSC Ambulance Meeting October 6, 2004
MINUTES
October 6, 2004
10:00-12:30
Introductions – Julie Griffin and Ron Gernsbacher
The Texas Ambulance Association (TAA) requested a face-to-face meeting
with Texas Medicaid & Healthcare Partnership (TMHP) and the Health and
Human Services Commission (HHSC) to discuss global issues ambulance
providers have with claims processing since the transition from the
former claims administrator to TMHP. This meeting was held at the HHSC
Braker Center on October 6, 2004, in the Lone Star Conference Room,
Austin, TX.
Purpose of the Meeting –Kari Dingman
HHSC stated that the most appropriate outcome of this meeting is to
ensure claims are paid appropriately and timely; therefore, plan of
action will follow payment issues, interactive research, and creation of
an ambulance workgroup.
The following topics were discussed.
Provider Relations
Lack of knowledge of TMHP telephone representatives. TMHP has taken
measures within the last three to four months to educate the Call Center
staff. TMHP consolidated their Call Centers and located staff only in
Austin, TX. Originally, all Call Center staff were “generalists” and
answered questions of all provider types. Call center staff are now
divided according to specific provider types and are considered
specialists. GRASP, a new software application, has been installed to
monitor what is being said during phone calls so that training efforts
can be tailored and improved.
One provider stated that she avoids calling the Call Center because of
its general incompetence. She feels much more comfortable calling a
specific subject matter expert who has demonstrated knowledge about
ambulance claims processing with her ambulance questions.
TMHP Action Item. Call Center staff are to be trained in
ambulance claims processing by the resident subject matter expert by
Friday, October 15, 2004.
Inadequate review and research of telephone representatives.
Another TAA member does not use the Call Center because the
representatives provide inaccurate information that is in direct
contradiction of the provider manual. The provider further questioned
whether the representatives had access to the provider manual. According
to this provider, his staff is educating Call Center staff about what
information is in the manual.
In addition to this frustration, providers cannot get beyond customer
service representatives if they have additional, higher-level issues or
concerns. On at least one occasion, a customer service representative
told a provider that they would “get in trouble” if they did not handle
the call themselves.
Providers are confused as to which specific customer service
representative to contact regarding ambulance claims processing. When
providers do finally contact someone at TMHP about these ambulance
claims processing issues, providers are often given different responses
to the same questions.
Providers further expressed concern about the stability of the Call
Center workforce. TMHP concedes that turnover is high.
TMHP Action Item. – HHSC directed TMHP to create a feedback loop
from providers to TMHP management for this kind of issues. Maryann
Wallace at TMHP was designated as the contact for providers if they had
concerns with the Contact Center.
Claims Processing
Inappropriate denial of claims using denial code 795. TMHP
assures providers that the problem of denying claims with code 795 was
corrected in the TMHP system in June 2004. The problem related to a
code-mapping issue.
Providers stated that inappropriate denials were still occurring. Copies
of these denials were submitted to TMHP for review. TMHP reiterated
that the problem was corrected June 24, 2004, but that providers had
claims pending for up to 11-12 weeks.
Providers were concerned about the age of claims. One provider asked
that TMHP explain how claims are being aged. TMHP provided an
explanation of the process.
Providers contended that the only claims that seemed to be paid were
Medicare crossover claims for emergency transportation (ET modifier) and
repetitive patients with prior authorization.
A representative from East Texas Medical Center (ETMC) requested that
their claims be paid by October 31, 2004. He received no affirmative
responses to this or any assurances from anyone that this would occur.
HHSC has had subsequent conversations with ETMC related to their issue.
Representative Norma Chavez inquired as to whether or not TMHP was
subject to contract performance requirements. HHSC assured
Representative Chavez that TMHP was currently engaged in a corrective
action plan specific to the backlog inventory of claims adjustments.
An ambulance provider stated that few electronic claims were being paid.
When claims are submitted electronically, they are auto-denied for
various reasons: 1) no documentation accompanies the submissions (Run
reports and ER records); and 2) comments provided in the appropriate
field are automatically erased if the field contains any special
characters (e.g., : ? &). TMHP explained that this is a system problem
that is HIPAA-related and one they had just discovered. In the mean
time, providers were instructed not to use any special characters in
future claim submissions.
ETMC stated that other payors do not have an issue with this particular
field or with paying providers using special characters.
Life Ambulance questioned the possibility of eliminating the ambulance
run report with each claim. This issue was deferred for consideration by
the ambulance workgroup that is to be created to review ambulance
policies and procedures (see action item below).
HHSC Action Item: HHSC will create an ambulance workgroup to
address specific issues (e.g., eliminating the ambulance run report).
The workgroup will review ambulance rules, policies, and procedures for
accuracy and appropriateness. HHSC policy analysts, TMHP customer
service representatives and claims processors, and TAA representative
will participate on the ambulance workgroup.
HHSC Action Item: HHSC will contact the subject matter expert
about HIPAA requirements relating to electronic claims processing. HHSC
also will inform participants of this resolution during week of October
11, 2004.
HHSC Action Item: HHSC will follow up with TAA about TMHP
resolutions regarding the problem with the delimiters in the comments
field. TMHP implemented a manual workaround on October 11, 2004. The
permanent solution is scheduled for completion by November 19, 2004.
TMHP Action Item: By October 15, 2004, TMHP will give TAA the
research conducted on claims to find out how they will be adjudicated to
prevent future denials and suspends. TMHP has developed a solution for
paper claims that deny because of blank or invalid diagnoses (when
diagnosis field is not required). This solution will be implemented by
November 19, 2004.
TMHP Action Item: TMHP will review problematic claims submitted by
Life Ambulance within the next two months.
TMHP Action Item: Banner message to providers about the systems
issue concerning special characters.
Administrative Appeals
TAA requested that filing deadlines be extended due to the appeal
backlog. The number of claims not processed by TMHP is extensive
(providers have seen an increase in pending claims). Providers are
considering lobbying for a bill to be introduced in the Texas
Legislature about specific time frame requirements for claims payments.
HHSC assured providers that the appeal backlog will not result in
providers missing filing deadlines. TMHP requested that providers send
them examples of appeal claims that were denied because of missing the
filing deadline.
Discussions
Emergency Diagnosis. One provider requested that HHSC publish or
give providers emergency diagnoses that are payable for emergency
transports by Medicaid. HHSC does not support publishing emergency
diagnoses. The Medicaid program supports ambulance providers coding
their claims according to the services provided during the transport.
Timeline and workplan for resolution of issues.
TMHP Action Item: By the first week of December, all currently
pending claims should be processed. (But will they be paid? Not
necessarily.) There will be instances in which the claim may be denied
for appropriate reasons.
TMHP Action Item: By Friday October 15, 2004, TMHP will
communicate with Life Ambulance about outstanding claims.
HHSC Action Item: HHSC will schedule monthly meetings until
issues are resolved. Either November 22 or 23, 2004, will be the next
meeting date. The next meeting will require more time and will be
divided into two parts: quick wins/short term solutions and long term
solutions. The focus of the workgroup will be centered around
understanding and resolving issues.
HHSC Action Item: Set up first workgroup meeting
Outstanding issue to be resolved: Why aren’t ambulance providers
paid as immediately as hospitals and doctors? Why are their claims
regularly denied (on the basis of medical necessity), but doctors’
claims are not? HHSC will add this issue to the agenda for the next
meeting.
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